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. >> so, is this a question we should be asking the obama administration about syria? >> well, you remember, randi, that president clinton was really angry with me when i was asking that question. the fact of the matter is the question didn't prompt intervention, but there was intervention more than a year later and it stopped the war and the president enacted a peace settlement and the war stopped and peace still endures in bosnia. and i think the issue with syria raises some very important questions. president clinton himself just earlier this year said that the longer it goes without being stopped, the bigger the chance of bad actors getting involved and that is precisely what's happened, randi. that is one more reason that the administration is reluctant to intervene because now it's not just the ordinary rebellion that it started out as with people demanding reform, it is now being joined by all sorts of jihadests and extremists and al qaeda-type affiliates and this is what is really worrying the united states and the region. but this is, if you like a self-fulfil
. >> so, is this a question we should be asking the obama administration about syria? >> well, you remember, randi, that president clinton was really angry with me when i was asking that question. the fact of the matter is the question didn't prompt intervention, but there was intervention more than a year later and it stopped the war and the president enacted a peace settlement and the war stopped and peace still endures in bosnia. and i think the issue with syria raises some very...
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so, a pretty clean case here and even the obama administration has already said it doesn't think the constitutionality of the defensive marriage act can withstand a legal attack. the second case the court decided to take on is proposition 8, the california ballot initiative adding a state constitutional amendment in 2008 that said only marriage between a man or woman is valid or recognized in california. it overturned a court ruling that said same-sex couples have a right to marry. the cases are likely to be heard in march and decided some time in june. randi? >> joe johns, thank you very much. >>> so, the decisions handed down next year but as jeffrey toobin told anderson cooper just the fact that they'll hear the cases is a landmark move. >> in 1967 was also the decision that said interracial marriage could not be banned by states. today that looks like, can you imagine a state that would ban interracial marriage. but 19 states still had that law in 1967. this gay right supporters have said this is the loving versus virginia of gay rights. we'll see. i don't know what the outcome w
so, a pretty clean case here and even the obama administration has already said it doesn't think the constitutionality of the defensive marriage act can withstand a legal attack. the second case the court decided to take on is proposition 8, the california ballot initiative adding a state constitutional amendment in 2008 that said only marriage between a man or woman is valid or recognized in california. it overturned a court ruling that said same-sex couples have a right to marry. the cases...
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the obama administration says, agrees that law is unconstitutional. that law is now being defended by a lawyer hired by the republicans in the house of representatives. so that -- that is one case. the other case is the proposition 8 case in california. if you recall, california -- there was a referendum -- the california supreme court ruled that there had to be same sex marriage under the california constitution. gay people had the right to get married there for a brief period of time. then there was an initiative put on the ballot, proposition 8, california voted in a close election to overturn same sex marriage. same sex marriage was banned after it was briefly legal. the federal district court had a trial there, and said that law, proposition 8, banning same sex marriage, is unconstitutional. that was affirmed on appeal, that is now appealed to the supreme court and they will now decide whether proposition 8 is constitutional or not. >> when we talk about this as being a historical sort of review, clearly there were different laws passed at the st
the obama administration says, agrees that law is unconstitutional. that law is now being defended by a lawyer hired by the republicans in the house of representatives. so that -- that is one case. the other case is the proposition 8 case in california. if you recall, california -- there was a referendum -- the california supreme court ruled that there had to be same sex marriage under the california constitution. gay people had the right to get married there for a brief period of time. then...
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. >>> we are getting reaction from the obama administration now which has been closely monitoring the numbers in washington. that's where we find the white house correspondent brianna keilar. we hope the leaf blower is done. what do you hear? >> reporter: no leaf blower, no jackhammer. we are getting reaction from the white house, obviously. they saw this positively, don. month surprise. this coming from the chairman of the president's council of economic advisors. it says while more work remains to be done today's employment report provides further evidence the u.s. economy is continuing to heal and continuing to heal from the wounds inflicted by the worst downturn since the great depression. this is obviously similar to what we heard in past months. but the president or -- certainly the white house pointing to this as proof that his economic policies should continue. specifically in this reaction. they point to that bush era tax cut for middle class americans that's set to expire along with tax cuts for all americans. here at the end of the year saying that that needs to get pushed
. >>> we are getting reaction from the obama administration now which has been closely monitoring the numbers in washington. that's where we find the white house correspondent brianna keilar. we hope the leaf blower is done. what do you hear? >> reporter: no leaf blower, no jackhammer. we are getting reaction from the white house, obviously. they saw this positively, don. month surprise. this coming from the chairman of the president's council of economic advisors. it says while...
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obama administration says it agrees that the law is unconstitutional so the house of representatives has hired outside lawyers to represent the law. >> because justice department has said you know what, this is ugly and we don't like it. it is here. but we are not going to enforce it. if this goes to the supreme court, who argues on behalf of the government? if the government does want to discuss it who discusses it for the government? >> paul clement, very distinguished lawyer hired by the house of representatives. former solicitor general under george w. bush. he argued the health care case and argued the arizona immigration case. she a very experienced advocate. that position will be very well represented. >> strangely we wouldn't have the current solicitor general. >> it happens, you know, about once every ten years. when the department of justice says we cannot represent the government. we just think that this is beyond the pale. that's what he is there done here. >> let me flip to prop 8. just so everyone is clear what jeffrey was talking about with the defense of marriage act
obama administration says it agrees that the law is unconstitutional so the house of representatives has hired outside lawyers to represent the law. >> because justice department has said you know what, this is ugly and we don't like it. it is here. but we are not going to enforce it. if this goes to the supreme court, who argues on behalf of the government? if the government does want to discuss it who discusses it for the government? >> paul clement, very distinguished lawyer...
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the obama administration is signaling it may step in and actively enforce federal drug laws which still outlaw smoking marijuana. and that could create very tricky political balancing act for president obama himself. john avlon is "outfront" on this story right now. this is a tightrope for the president, john. >> it is. it's fascinating. a brand new quinnipiac poll illustrates what a tough situation this is. for the first time, a narrow majority of americans, 51%, support legalizing marijuana. but here's where it gets politically interesting. when you break it down by party i.d., 58% of democrats and independents support legalizing marijuana. clear majority. only 31% of republicans do, however. so it's a fascinating shift where liberals and independents are saying, look. states rights at least on this issue. more individual liberty. and republicans are being more traditionalist about their attitudes. final point, this poll makes very clear it's a generational shift. just a second ago you were talking about the evolution of this issue of same-sex marriage. same thing with marijuana legal
the obama administration is signaling it may step in and actively enforce federal drug laws which still outlaw smoking marijuana. and that could create very tricky political balancing act for president obama himself. john avlon is "outfront" on this story right now. this is a tightrope for the president, john. >> it is. it's fascinating. a brand new quinnipiac poll illustrates what a tough situation this is. for the first time, a narrow majority of americans, 51%, support...
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the obama administration agrees that this law is unconstitutional. it's now being defended by a lawyer hired by the house of representatives, and the case about is the defense of marriage act constitutional, that is one. there are several different cases raising that issue that the justices are probably going to decide whether to hear today. >> california's prop 8, what would that entail? >> propositional is a very different case because that's really a more fundamental case that potentially could apply in every state of the union. basically that question is does the constitution require that everyone, gay or straight, has the right to get married, and what makes the proposition 8 case potentially so earth-shaking in its politics is that it might not apply only in california. it might apply in the 40 plus states that don't have same-sex marriage. it could essentially bring same-sex marriage to the whole country. that's a very different, much broader issue than the defense of marriage act. >> and, jeffrey, explain to us, what is the difference if you
the obama administration agrees that this law is unconstitutional. it's now being defended by a lawyer hired by the house of representatives, and the case about is the defense of marriage act constitutional, that is one. there are several different cases raising that issue that the justices are probably going to decide whether to hear today. >> california's prop 8, what would that entail? >> propositional is a very different case because that's really a more fundamental case that...
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economy and the obama administration, the nation's jobless rate fell to 7.7% in november as employers added 146,000 new jobs. the jobless rate hasn't been this low during the entire obama administration, but that's only part of the story. a closer look also shows a big reason behind today's drop in the unemployment rate is that 350,000 people dropped out of the work force in november. they're discouraged, many of them are, that they simply quit and they're trying to find work. christine romans joins us from new york. we saw the unexpected drop in the unemployment rate, but christine, take us a little behind the numbers that make up the headlines. >> 7.7% is that unemployment rate, the lowest since december, 2008, from before the president took office. 146,000 jobs created, twice what economists have been expecting. they really didn't see the pull back because of hiring being depressed because of hurricane sandy. maybe you'll see some of that in the next month, but this was a strong report on its surface. digging in the numbers. look at the right side on that graphic, 14.4% underemploy
economy and the obama administration, the nation's jobless rate fell to 7.7% in november as employers added 146,000 new jobs. the jobless rate hasn't been this low during the entire obama administration, but that's only part of the story. a closer look also shows a big reason behind today's drop in the unemployment rate is that 350,000 people dropped out of the work force in november. they're discouraged, many of them are, that they simply quit and they're trying to find work. christine romans...
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do you agree, sir, with the obama administration that chemical weapons are a red line and should be a red line? >> they are a perfectly reasonable red line, but they are only a red line if they are used. as of now there's no reporting, no information to the effect that they are being used against anyone, and it's hard to envisage how they could be used because if the resistance is scattered, sporadic, then how can you employ these weapons? it's not very likely to me, at least, that the regime will start poisoning itself, particularly in dmamascus which is a big city and which could be the object, but that would make absolutely no sense. >> is it simply too dangerous, do you think, for the u.s. to get involved in the region? i mean, you have iran, iraq, israel. they are all right there. >> i think the more serious issue which goes beyond the slightly hysterical hype is what sort of regime can be created in syria that is stable, and how do we avoid such fragmentation that the conflict in syria spills over into jordan and lebanon and conceivably also activates conflicts in iraq. this is
do you agree, sir, with the obama administration that chemical weapons are a red line and should be a red line? >> they are a perfectly reasonable red line, but they are only a red line if they are used. as of now there's no reporting, no information to the effect that they are being used against anyone, and it's hard to envisage how they could be used because if the resistance is scattered, sporadic, then how can you employ these weapons? it's not very likely to me, at least, that the...
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joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an incredibly popular position. it's important for republicans to know that the white house is not going to accept any kind of a deal. that's the point he was trying to make. i think all the leverage now is with the democrats, with the president. the american public is on his side. i think it's important for the republicans not to think that they can just get any kind of deal out of him because if they do go over
joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a...
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. >> the kill list was reported during the administration of president george w. bush when you had seemore her sh, saying that came out of vice president cheney's office. >> the one that barack obama has similar to baseball cards put in front of him. >> i'm just saying -- >> you're sitting here, there are reporters out there that provide information leaked by administrations and not like this is somehow a different administration than previous ones. >> let's just remember that this movie isn't the first one to pull the veil back on the killing of osama bin laden. there was extensive coverage right after it happened. "the new yorker" had like a 20-page sitedown interview with several different administration sources. the administration didn't go straight to these filmmakers and say, let us give you the inside scoop. i doubt there are new details in this movie that haven't already emerged. >> do you want to see this movie? >> absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> the best buzz this movie could have gotten. >> even watching kathryn bigelow, you know she says controversy
. >> the kill list was reported during the administration of president george w. bush when you had seemore her sh, saying that came out of vice president cheney's office. >> the one that barack obama has similar to baseball cards put in front of him. >> i'm just saying -- >> you're sitting here, there are reporters out there that provide information leaked by administrations and not like this is somehow a different administration than previous ones. >> let's just...
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. >> so is this a question that we should be asking the obama administration about syria? >> well, you remember, randi, that president clinton was really angry with me when i was asking that question from sarajevo. the fact of the matter is the question didn't prompt intervention but there was intervention more than a year later and it stopped the war and the president enacted a peace settlement and the war stopped and peace still endures in bosnia. i think the issue of syria raises some very important questions. president clinton himself just earlier this year said that the longer it goes without being stopped, the bigger the chance of bad actors getting involved. that is precisely what's happened, randi. that is one more reason that the administration is reluctant to intervene, because now it's not just the ordinary rebellion that it started out as with people demanding reform. it is now being joined by all sorts of jihadists and extremists. al qaeda type affiliates. and all sorts of other types. and this is what's really worrying the united states and the region. but th
. >> so is this a question that we should be asking the obama administration about syria? >> well, you remember, randi, that president clinton was really angry with me when i was asking that question from sarajevo. the fact of the matter is the question didn't prompt intervention but there was intervention more than a year later and it stopped the war and the president enacted a peace settlement and the war stopped and peace still endures in bosnia. i think the issue of syria raises...
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note to the obama administration, it is not happening in a bubble. last year you'll recall the obama administration put off a decision on the excel pipeline, an extension of a pipeline that would connect the oil in alberta to the gulf of mexico and international markets. the democrats killed it because of concerns from environmentalists. the proposed route crossed the aquifer in nebraska and white house and state department officials could have just insisted on rerouting the pipe, but they didn't. a bad move, one that was highly thought to play to the president's base. now that the elections are over, a review of a new route will begin sometime next year. the leakages of that pipe were a minor concern, though it got all the headlines. a more legitimate environmental concern is carbon emissions. processing crude that is mined from the oil sands emits double the emissions of regular drilled oil. but oil sands still -- that still scarce, oil is still scarce, the chinese lead lots of it, and the canadians have lots of it. president obama campaigned on se
note to the obama administration, it is not happening in a bubble. last year you'll recall the obama administration put off a decision on the excel pipeline, an extension of a pipeline that would connect the oil in alberta to the gulf of mexico and international markets. the democrats killed it because of concerns from environmentalists. the proposed route crossed the aquifer in nebraska and white house and state department officials could have just insisted on rerouting the pipe, but they...
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. >> so let me ask you a question about this report that we're hearing that the obama administration might be looking at a republican to succeed the defense secretary, leon panetta. who is on that list at this point? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. this is former nebraska senator chuck hagel, a republican. so this is pretty interesting. we know, according to sources knowledgeable of the situation, that president obama and vice president joe biden have met with hagel and he's, of course, is someone who's familiar to the president. yes, he's a republican but some republican mace take issue with this nomination because in 2008 he actually sort of switched sides, if you will, a little bit and endorsed president obama. he also traveled with him to iraq and afghanistan. so they have that relationship as well as the vice president's relationship with hagel in the senate. it's sort of fascinating, though, because bob gates, as you know, was a republican. and so if he were to be nominated, if hagel were to be nominated, two out of three of the president's defense secretaries would be republi
. >> so let me ask you a question about this report that we're hearing that the obama administration might be looking at a republican to succeed the defense secretary, leon panetta. who is on that list at this point? >> reporter: yeah, that's right. this is former nebraska senator chuck hagel, a republican. so this is pretty interesting. we know, according to sources knowledgeable of the situation, that president obama and vice president joe biden have met with hagel and he's, of...
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. >> reporter: wolf, the challenge is for the obama administration to figure out exactly what bashar al assad is up to with his deadly arsenal. the horror remains unspeakable. 25 years ago saddam hussein unleashed one of the worst poison gas attacks in history. thousands were killed. now, in syria, u.s. concerns are growing by the hour that bashar al assad may be planning the same thing against his citizens. >> the intelligence that we have raises serious concerns that this is being considered. >> reporter: u.s. intelligence shows syria has mixed chemical compounds needed to make a deadly agent that can quickly kill thousands. >> the united states and our allies are facing the prospect of an imminent use of weapons of mass destruction in syria. and this may be the last warning we get. >> reporter: the u.s. is not precisely saying what the syrians are doing, but there are two ways of mixing elements to make a saren filled weapon. >> you have to handle it very, very carefully. a drop will kill you. often it's done at the last minute. there's another style. >> reporter: chemicals placed
. >> reporter: wolf, the challenge is for the obama administration to figure out exactly what bashar al assad is up to with his deadly arsenal. the horror remains unspeakable. 25 years ago saddam hussein unleashed one of the worst poison gas attacks in history. thousands were killed. now, in syria, u.s. concerns are growing by the hour that bashar al assad may be planning the same thing against his citizens. >> the intelligence that we have raises serious concerns that this is being...
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. >>> the use of drones by the obama administration is foreigning a political odd couple in the house of represent tifrs. dennis kucinich and ron paul. president obama ordered more drone strikes in his first term than president bush did in his combined terms. the strike just last week killed a senior leader in pakistan near the border of afghanistan and the two congress men want president obama to release all the information and the data and detail that he ordered against many terrorists. representative kucinich joins me live. welcome back and nice to see you. >> good to be with you. >> the judiciary did address this, but me why you are challenging the president. >> it's not about challenging the president, but up holding the constitution of the united states. no president has the right to launch missile attacks on another country without congressional approval. no president has the right to take away someone's right to due process of law. they happen to be an american citizen abroad and we asked for the legal justification. that's what we are looking at. three years is a long time to
. >>> the use of drones by the obama administration is foreigning a political odd couple in the house of represent tifrs. dennis kucinich and ron paul. president obama ordered more drone strikes in his first term than president bush did in his combined terms. the strike just last week killed a senior leader in pakistan near the border of afghanistan and the two congress men want president obama to release all the information and the data and detail that he ordered against many...
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about four years ago when the first obama administration came in, eric holder signalled that they were not going to prosecute, go after medical marijuana in states that had approved it. since that time, a huge medical marijuana industry has popped up here. we have about 500 medical marijuana stores here and over 100,000 people on the medical marijuana registry. even though it's still against federal law, medical or not, so the advocates here are hoping that at the minimum they'll get that kind of wink and a nod sort of for the federal government. it still doesn't really settle anything, but that's their sort of early stage hope. they're realistic and know that this could well end up in court, and as you heard in the piece, they are ready to fight for what they call the will of colorado voters. >> so in the meantime here, if you're one of these people who is smoking in colorado or you want to smoke in colorado, could you get arrested, or it's just considered legal and it's okay? >> well, you're not going to get arrested in the short-term because it would really take, i guess, federal au
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we're hering so far a measured response from the obama administration. >> secretary hillary clinton says it calls for ugt talks between president morsi. >> we have expressed that repeatedly over the last weeks. because almost two years ago, the egyptian people took to the streets because they wanted real democratic change. and they, therefore, not the americans, or anyone else, deserve a constitution that protects the rights of all egyptians. >> future could depend on how the situation plays out and if president morsi chooses democracy or dictatorship. >> i spoke about that with a guest. >> you met with high officials at the state department, the u.s. still provides egypt with economic and military assistance, about $1.3 million a year. hundreds of millions in economic aide, did they race that issue with you? there was concern that if president morsi continues to move in that direction, the u.s. assistance could be in trouble. >> i think it's important for the united states than it is for egypt. it's mutual interest and mutual benefit. and the relationship is depending on the relationshi
we're hering so far a measured response from the obama administration. >> secretary hillary clinton says it calls for ugt talks between president morsi. >> we have expressed that repeatedly over the last weeks. because almost two years ago, the egyptian people took to the streets because they wanted real democratic change. and they, therefore, not the americans, or anyone else, deserve a constitution that protects the rights of all egyptians. >> future could depend on how the...
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the obama administration has faced accusations it gave undeserved access to the filmmakers. in real life, everyone involved in the hunt for bin laden remains sworn to secrecy. but the filmmakers say they got firsthand accounts. they just won't say exactly how that happened. >> i think as a reporter you would understand we take prot t protecting our sources and sort of the exact methodology of our sourcing pretty seriously, just in the same way if i asked you how did you source that story. >> katherine, when you hear mark talk this way, are you a journalist or a filmmakerer? >> that's a good question. well, i certainly tried to be as faithful to the research as possible and make a good movie and make a film that was timely. >> reporter: but how much access they got is the issue. >> obviously things went wrong here. >> reporter: congressman peter king, chairman of the house homeland security committee first called for an investigation at both the cia and the pentagon. >> there was an event where operatives were involved and they did not know until they got there that the holly
the obama administration has faced accusations it gave undeserved access to the filmmakers. in real life, everyone involved in the hunt for bin laden remains sworn to secrecy. but the filmmakers say they got firsthand accounts. they just won't say exactly how that happened. >> i think as a reporter you would understand we take prot t protecting our sources and sort of the exact methodology of our sourcing pretty seriously, just in the same way if i asked you how did you source that story....
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administration officials, u.s. president barack obama, u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton that the use of chemical weapons in syria was a red line for which syria and the bashar al assad regime would face severe consequences if they ever did cross that red line and utilize chemical weapons against the people of syria. >> and we have no idea what those severe consequences would be, right? >> reporter: that's right, we don't. you know, people speculate that this would mean some type of military intervention, but we also know that a lot of world powers have not wanted to intervene militarily in syria. that they've wanted what's going on in syria to happen within syria. but the fear is if chemical weapons are utilized, and again, the syrian regime has said on many occasions, they are not going to use chemical weapons against their population, that that would mean there would be some type of military intervention, although it's unclear what scope that type of military intervention would take. >> mohammed jamjoom live in beirut, thanks very muc
administration officials, u.s. president barack obama, u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton that the use of chemical weapons in syria was a red line for which syria and the bashar al assad regime would face severe consequences if they ever did cross that red line and utilize chemical weapons against the people of syria. >> and we have no idea what those severe consequences would be, right? >> reporter: that's right, we don't. you know, people speculate that this would mean some...